2024-10-23 Aries Working Group Call

Summary:

Zoom: https://zoom.us/j/93803916577?pwd=UWdLSTJ2b0kvZTRyc1hZTUdQQ3ZFZz09

Recording: 

Attendees:

• @Sam Curren (Indicio.tech) <sam@indicio.tech>

Welcome / Introductions

Announcements

• LFDT Member Summit today

• IIW Oct 29-31

Release Status and Work Updates

• Implementations:

  • Aries Cloud Agent Python https://github.com/hyperledger/aries-cloudagent-python, Meetings: ACA-Pug Meetings, Documentation: https://aca-py.org

  • Credo https://github.com/openwallet-foundation/credo-ts, Meetings: Credo Meetings

  • Bifold Wallet -- https://github.com/openwallet-foundation/bifold-wallet Meetings: Bifold Meetings

  • Aries VCX (https://github.com/hyperledger/aries-vcx, Meetings: Aries-VCX Meetings

    • Proposal to move Aries VCX to the Open Wallet Foundation - https://github.com/hyperledger/aries-vcx/discussions/1285 

    • Are you using the Indy SDK for Aries VCX, please let us know, as we're looking to remove support from Aries VCX - https://github.com/hyperledger/aries-vcx/issues/1250

  • Picos as of pico-engine version 1.3.0 natively use DIDComm v2 (https://github.com/Picolab/pico-engine/blob/master/packages/pico-engine/README.md)

• Aries Agent Test Harness -- https://aries-interop.info

• Aries Shared Components - Indy SDK replacements

  • Indy Verifiable Date Registry - Ledger Interface https://github.com/hyperledger/indy-vdr

  • Aries Askar secure storage - https://github.com/bcgov/aries-askar

  • AnonCreds Rust - https://github.com/hyperledger/anoncreds-rs

  • Shared Rust Library/CredX (AnonCreds) https://github.com/hyperledger/indy-shared-rs - being replaced by AnonCreds Rust

• aries-mediator-service – a DIDComm Mediator in a Box

• aries-endorser-service – an Indy Endorser in a Box (in development)

• Aries Akrida - Load Testing DIDComm based protocols

Discussion Topics

• Future of Aries Discussion--Project Proposals accepted by OWF

  • Updates

  • Execution

    • Meeting adjustments

    • Actually Moving Repos

    • Pipeline adjustments

    • Marketing - Sam to drive prep

      • ACA-Py 1.0/Move to OWF announcement

• OWF Wallet Interop SIG

  • Scope

    • Interop Profiles

    • Interopathons

    • Movements and progress within wallet efforts

    • Awareness of new ideas and concepts

      • Actual spec related progress will need to happen in other meetings

  • Help needed

  • Timing

    • New call begins the week following IIW

    • Weds 11/6 - 7am PT (current WG day/time)
      Weds 11/13 - 8am PT (shifted for TAC)
      Weds 11/20 - 7am PT (current WG day/time)
      Weds 11/27 - 8am PT (shifted for TAC)
      Weds 12/4 - 7am PT (current WG day/time)
      Weds 12/11 - 8am PT (shifted for TAC)
      Weds 12/18 - 7am PT (current WG day/time)
      Weds 12/25 - Holiday - no meeting
      Weds 1/1 - Holiday - no meeting
      Weds 1/8 - 8am PT (shifted for TAC)
      Weds 1/15 - 7am PT (current WG day/time)

• Messaging

  • Aries Wiki Proposed Messaging

    • https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gpiv1tLp7XQTrC66oJ-3J-nHLpYhWUsFMd-M45UWUT0/edit

  • To be posted at time of transition with all forward looking details.

• Aries RFCs Repo Future

  • Maintenance Mode - Pointers to new work only. No new contributions accepted.

• Open Discussion

Future Topics

• Mid-Transition Work Items

  • Continued project advancement

    • No need to adjust code contributions

  • Community Coordinated Updates

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    • Unqualified DIDs 

      • https://hyperledger.github.io/aries-rfcs/latest/features/0793-unqualfied-dids-transition/

      • Progress?

        • ACA-Py working on 1.0, this will be the SECOND major release (0.12.1) of ACA-Py that has accomplished step 1

        • Ongoing successful testing with Credo.

      • did:indy handling

        • unqualified anoncreds objects being rejected

        • did:indy changes the unique identifier within the DID. both the old method and the new method should work.

        • Credo is using did:indy only, cannot resolve unqualified asset identifiers.

        • Rushed work to address within AnonCreds RS ( ? ) and ACA-Py. 

        • quicker fix in Credo, longer fix in everything.

      • PRs for adoption status welcome

    • OOB Invitation / DID Exchange CCU

      • https://hyperledger.github.io/aries-rfcs/latest/features/0496-transition-to-oob-and-did-exchange/

      • Step 1 (Accept OOB Invitations) needs confirmation - Please Do This.

        • Bifold using OOB, but then connections (allowed for transitions)

      • Step 2 - use OOB and implement DID Exchange

      • Known systems possibly still using Connection Invitations

        • Lissi 

        • Dock

        • GlobalID

        • Trinsic

      • PRs for adoption status welcome

• DIDComm v2 adoption

  • ACA-Py progress shared last week

    • PR made for initial support. first round trip support.

  • Any other updates?

  • Credo has the beginnings of DIDComm v2, but does need some attention.

• In person offline presentation

  • Transport

    • BLE DIDComm transport

    • ISO/mDL

  • Caching Strategies

    • Knowing what to cache

      • Credential Trust Establishment spec

    • Keeping things cached, and use cached state

      • verifier decides if it's new enough

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    • revocation check

    • don't include proof of non-revocation if not asked

      • can't be ignored?

  • don't do indy edits on cred defs and schemas

    • is this already a rule? if not, it should be.

    • edit rule does exist. but why?

•  Interopathon?

  • Discuss post EIC

  • Virtual

  • potential target end of july

  • participants

    • Aries /  ACA-Py

    • Credo

    • Veramo

    • Identus

  • scope

    • unqualified DIDs gone

      • did rotation

      • v1 - v2

    • DIDComm v2

      • trust ping?

      • discover features?

      • basicmessage?

      • did rotation after connection

      • didcomm demo interaction

    • advanced tasks

      • credential issuance / presentation

Other Business

Future Topics

Action items

Call Recording: