2023-06-08 Cardea Users Group Meeting

2023-06-08 Cardea Users Group Meeting

Summary

On Today's Call:

  • Review:  New Community Group connection instructions (calendar etc), review of project goals, upcoming speaker series

  • Presentation: Sarah Samis, VP Public Health Products and Platforms, GCOM

Connection Info

The call takes place over Zoom: https://zoom.us/j/97575630290?pwd=di9hNThXSXNhRVhkak1heXVGblM5Zz09

Date

Jun 8, 2023 9am PT/ 10am MT/ 12pm ET



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Attendees

  • Keela Shatzkin, Ry Jones, Helen Garneau, Sarah Samis, Ivan, Mike Ebert, Simon Nazarenko, Steve Davis, Tim Spring, Trevor Butterworth

Announcements:

  • Next meeting: 6/22

Agenda:

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    • Introductions

      • Keela Shatzkin

      • Ry Jones

      • Helen Garneau

    • Discussion & Presentation with Sarah Samis & Ivan

      • GCOM, state and local government IT services company, work with most/many states across US

        • Vital Records issuance and management

        • digital identity solutions using verifiable credentials

      • Vital Records community goal:

        • pilot level digital certificate issuance by 2026

      • Vital Records overview

        • a form of identity credentials, used for a range of verifications of other critical documents, i.e. driver's license

        • Issued at local/state level, NOT federal level

          • 57 agencies (some states have more than 1, plus US territories

          • each STATE has laws the specify how these things should be collected and managed

        • Most other countries have vital records at national/federal level

      • User/community

        • State and Local jurisdiction staff

        • Providers who enter data

          • birth data

          • death data

        • End User/public requesting data

          • includes clearing house integrations

      • There are timeline requirements for providers to submit the data, especially timely death reporting

      • Use Cases:

        • Who's qualified to submit vital stats records, Medical Certification

          • Issuer: ED department (who oversees medical licensing)

          • Holder: Licensed medical certifier

          • Verifier: Health Department

          • Discussion

            • May require adjustments to state law if there are mandates on identity verification, to ensure verifiable creds meet/satisfy these requirements

            • Could be used to manage login to the reporting system

            • Supports the submission cycle

        • Birth Use Case: Public/Person requesting their record

          • Issuer: Dept of Health

          • Holder: person/parent

          • Verifier: Local school district

          • Discussion

            • Verifiable creds would help make enrollment easier and would be more secure by use of the ED systems

              • School could provider registration QR code

            • Supports selective disclosure

              • i.e. school district only needs to verify age for grade eligibility

            • Paper forms:

              • Long form includes ALL data including a lot of medical and family based data

              • Short form is more limited, but still may include more than what's needed for school

            • Children born to non-citizen parents have a really hard time getting birth certificates

            • There is a major value in being able to revocate access when needed

              • 18th birthday

              • Emancipated Minors

              • Amendments and Corrections, ease of revoke and reissue

        • Death Use Case:

          • Issuer: Dept of Health

          • Holder: Relative

          • Verifiers: Government, Private sector (titles, life insurance), 3rd party to Government

          • Discussion

            • WHY people died is considered super sensitive data point

              • can be managed by selective disclosure

            • Longer times for delivery can cause delays

      • WILL need tools to help interoperate because there WILL be deviation in the standards

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    • Questions:

      • Why are these not free?

        • Fees help cover the operating costs

        • There are special fraud protection paper requirements that also add costs

        • special cases may require a lot more investigation/vetting which requires staffing & resources

      • VitalCheck

        • software product provided by LexisNexis, this is contracted with local governments

        • MOST states are live with public/private partnership

      • How close is birth certificate to becoming verifiable credentials?

        • Since this is foundational document.... and sometimes we need to MAIL this to agencies, etc, how close is this to becoming real?

        • We think this is on the horizon, there is a lot of interest, NAPHSIS conference is investigating.  Some states are laying foundation laws for digital identity (Utah, Michigan, etc)

          • some drivers licenses and passports ARE already digitized, partially because they NEED to be more mobile, so they came first

            • This could help leapfrog the use case for birth certificates because the path is being paved and barriers are being reduced

          • There is a significant use case, could help with other state/government program enrollments

      • Technical formats?

        • Focus isn't on the tech detail yet, but rather the general goal of digitizing the data

        • There hasn't been a rallying around a single tech answer yet.

          • There is a risk for state based deviations here... but there is federal role to help fund and encourage states to move in certain directions... the carrot to drive toward consistency

    • White paper Update

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    • Future Agendas:

      • Next meeting: 6/22

Call Recording: 

https://youtu.be/IdvTBG9wtYw

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