2023-06-08 Cardea Users Group Meeting

Summary

On Today's Call:

Review: New Community Group connection instructions (calendar etc), review of project goals, upcoming speaker series
Presentation: Sarah Samis, VP Public Health Products and Platforms, GCOM

Connection Info

The call takes place over Zoom: https://zoom.us/j/97575630290?pwd=di9hNThXSXNhRVhkak1heXVGblM5Zz09

Date

08 Jun 2023 9am PT/ 10am MT/ 12pm ET

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Attendees

Keela Shatzkin, Ry Jones, Helen Garneau, Sarah Samis, Ivan, Mike Ebert, Simon Nazarenko, Steve Davis, Tim Spring, Trevor Butterworth

Announcements:

Next meeting: 6/22

Agenda:

- Transitioning to Hyperledger
  - Calendar transition
    - 2nd&4th Thursdays for now will continue
  - Groups io: https://lists.hyperledger.org/g/labs
    - Helen is admin
  - Notes/Materials
    - Old notes and materials have been transitioned to the wiki page
    - Can track notes real time
  - Zoom/Meeting Invites
    - Will transition to hyperledger zoom
    - Recordings are posted to youtube as “playlist” people can subscribe to
  - Chat
    - Move from slack to discord: https://discord.gg/hyperledger
    - #cardea channel under Labs
  - Blog announcing transtition to Hyperledger:
    - https://www.hyperledger.org/blog/2023/05/10/cardea-a-privacy-preserving-open-source-ecosystem-for-verifying-health-data-joins-hyperledger-labs

- Introductions
  - Keela Shatzkin
  - Ry Jones
  - Helen Garneau
- Discussion & Presentation with Sarah Samis & Ivan
  - GCOM, state and local government IT services company, work with most/many states across US
    - Vital Records issuance and management
    - digital identity solutions using verifiable credentials
  - Vital Records community goal:
    - pilot level digital certificate issuance by 2026
  - Vital Records overview
    - a form of identity credentials, used for a range of verifications of other critical documents, i.e. driver's license
    - Issued at local/state level, NOT federal level
      - 57 agencies (some states have more than 1, plus US territories
      - each STATE has laws the specify how these things should be collected and managed
    - Most other countries have vital records at national/federal level
  - User/community
    - State and Local jurisdiction staff
    - Providers who enter data
      - birth data
      - death data
    - End User/public requesting data
      - includes clearing house integrations
  - There are timeline requirements for providers to submit the data, especially timely death reporting
  - Use Cases:
    - Who's qualified to submit vital stats records, Medical Certification
      - Issuer: ED department (who oversees medical licensing)
      - Holder: Licensed medical certifier
      - Verifier: Health Department
      - Discussion
        May require adjustments to state law if there are mandates on identity verification, to ensure verifiable creds meet/satisfy these requirements
        Could be used to manage login to the reporting system
        Supports the submission cycle
    - Birth Use Case: Public/Person requesting their record
      - Issuer: Dept of Health
      - Holder: person/parent
      - Verifier: Local school district
      - Discussion
        Verifiable creds would help make enrollment easier and would be more secure by use of the ED systems
        School could provider registration QR code
        Supports selective disclosure
        i.e. school district only needs to verify age for grade eligibility
        Paper forms:
        Long form includes ALL data including a lot of medical and family based data
        Short form is more limited, but still may include more than what's needed for school
        Children born to non-citizen parents have a really hard time getting birth certificates
        There is a major value in being able to revocate access when needed
        18th birthday
        Emancipated Minors
        Amendments and Corrections, ease of revoke and reissue
    - Death Use Case:
      - Issuer: Dept of Health
      - Holder: Relative
      - Verifiers: Government, Private sector (titles, life insurance), 3rd party to Government
      - Discussion
        WHY people died is considered super sensitive data point
        can be managed by selective disclosure
        Longer times for delivery can cause delays
  - WILL need tools to help interoperate because there WILL be deviation in the standards
- Questions:
  - Why are these not free?
    - Fees help cover the operating costs
    - There are special fraud protection paper requirements that also add costs
    - special cases may require a lot more investigation/vetting which requires staffing & resources
  - VitalCheck
    - software product provided by LexisNexis, this is contracted with local governments
    - MOST states are live with public/private partnership
  - How close is birth certificate to becoming verifiable credentials?
    - Since this is foundational document.... and sometimes we need to MAIL this to agencies, etc, how close is this to becoming real?
    - We think this is on the horizon, there is a lot of interest, NAPHSIS conference is investigating. Some states are laying foundation laws for digital identity (Utah, Michigan, etc)
      - some drivers licenses and passports ARE already digitized, partially because they NEED to be more mobile, so they came first
        This could help leapfrog the use case for birth certificates because the path is being paved and barriers are being reduced
      - There is a significant use case, could help with other state/government program enrollments
  - Technical formats?
    - Focus isn't on the tech detail yet, but rather the general goal of digitizing the data
    - There hasn't been a rallying around a single tech answer yet.
      - There is a risk for state based deviations here... but there is federal role to help fund and encourage states to move in certain directions... the carrot to drive toward consistency
- White paper Update
- Future Agendas:
  - Next meeting: 6/22

Call Recording:

https://youtu.be/IdvTBG9wtYw

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