2023-05-24 Aries Working Group Call
Summary:
- Open Wallet Foundation
Date
(7AM Los Angeles, 10AM New York, 3PM London, 4PM CET, 18H Moscow)
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Attendees
- Sam Curren (Indicio) <sam@indicio.tech>
- Warren Gallagher (AffinitiQuest)<warren@affinitiquest.io>
- Charles Lanahan <charles.lanahan@gmail.com>
- John Jordan (BC Gov) <john.jordan@gov.bc.ca>
- Tracy Kuhrt
- Helen Garneau (Indicio) <helen@indicio.tech>
- Karim Stekelenburg (Animo)<karim@animo.id>
- Tim Bloomfield <tim.bloomfield@ontario.ca>
- Peter Janes (Abdagon AG) <peter.janes@abdagon.com>
- Ryan Koch (Indicio) <ryan@indicio.tech>
- Akiff Manji (BC Gov / Petri Dish Development) <amanji@petridish.dev>
- Ken Ebert (Indicio) <ken@indicio.tech>
- Daniela Barbosa (Hyperledger Foundation)- <dbarbosa@linuxfoundation.org>
- Jason Sherman (BC Gov) <jason@usingtechnolo.gy>
- Berend Sliedrecht (Animo) <berend@animo.id>
- Jorge Flores (Entidad) <jorge@entidad.io>
- Andre Kudra (esatus AG) <a.kudra@esatus.com>
- Alexandra Walker (Indicio) <alex.walker@indicio.tech>
- Rodolfo Miranda (RootsID)<rodolfo.miranda@rootsid.com>
- Clecio Varjao (BC Gov) <clecio.varjao@gov.bc.ca>
- Micah Peltier (Indicio) <micah@indicio.tech>
- Timo Glastra (Animo) <timo@animo.id>
- Steve McCown (Anonyome Labs) <smccown@anonyome.com>
Welcome / Introductions)
Announcements
- June 7-9 https://diceurope.org/
- Hackathon – https://didhack.xyz/ – need an Aries Developer to monitor Discord to answer questions from participants
- AnonCreds Workshop May 31, 2023 08:00 AM
Release Status and Work Updates
- Aries Agent Test Harness -- https://aries-interop.info
- Aries Shared Components - Indy SDK replacements
- Indy Verifiable Date Registry - Ledger Interface https://github.com/hyperledger/indy-vdr
- Release 0.4.0-dev14
- Release 0.5.0 will have breaking changes, including did:indy branch merged into main.
- Aries Askar secure storage - https://github.com/bcgov/aries-askar
- Release 0.2.8
- AnonCreds Rust - https://github.com/hyperledger/anoncreds-rs
- Release 0.1.0-dev16
- Shared Rust Library/CredX (AnonCreds) https://github.com/hyperledger/indy-shared-rs - being replaced by AnonCreds Rust
- Release 0.3.2 tagged
- Indy Verifiable Date Registry - Ledger Interface https://github.com/hyperledger/indy-vdr
- Frameworks:
- Aries-CloudAgent-Python https://github.com/hyperledger/aries-cloudagent-python, Meetings: ACA-Pug Meetings
- 0.8.1 released – focused on the upgrade command, most relevant to multi-use invitations – including mediators.
- New documentation site: https://aca-py.org
- Aries-Framework-JavaScript https://github.com/hyperledger/aries-framework-javascript, Meetings: Framework JS Meetings
- Version 0.3.3 released - https://github.com/hyperledger/aries-framework-javascript/releases
- Version 0.4.0 in progress - https://github.com/hyperledger/aries-framework-javascript/releases/tag/v0.4.0-alpha.87
- Aries VCX (https://github.com/hyperledger/aries-vcx, Meetings: Aries-VCX Meetings
- Release 0.53.0 https://github.com/hyperledger/aries-vcx/releases/tag/0.53.0
- Picos as Aries agents (https://github.com/Picolab/aries-cloudagent-pico)
- Phil Windley has students working on a DIDComm v2 version of ACA-Pico
- Less active repos:
- Aries-Framework-Go (Troy) #aries-go (https://github.com/hyperledger/aries-framework-go, Meetings: aries-framework-go)
- Aries-Framework-DotNet (https://github.com/hyperledger/aries-framework-dotnet)
- Aries-CloudAgent-Python https://github.com/hyperledger/aries-cloudagent-python, Meetings: ACA-Pug Meetings
- Mobile:
- Aries Mobile Agent React Native, aka Aries Bifold https://github.com/hyperledger/aries-mobile-agent-react-native, Meetings: Aries Bifold User Group Meetings
- Bifold Summit Happening now – Bifold Summit 2023
- BCGov has realeased an Aries Bifold version, rebranded w/ BC blue/theme/etc (BC wallet)
- Aries-MobileAgent-Xamarin aka Aries MAX (https://github.com/hyperledger/aries-mobileagent-xamarin)
- Aries Mobile Agent React Native, aka Aries Bifold https://github.com/hyperledger/aries-mobile-agent-react-native, Meetings: Aries Bifold User Group Meetings
- aries-mediator-service – a DIDComm Mediator in a Box
- aries-endorser-server – an Indy Endorser in a Box (in development)
- Aries-Toolbox
Discussion Topics
- Open Wallet Foundation
- Tracy Kuhrt - https://discord.com/channels/905194001349627914/1108478336751108127
- Important Things (opinion of Sam)
- Continuity of Community
- Meetings, Wikis, Calls, Calendars
- All existing people, work continues with as little disruption as possible.
- This should not be an issue, as long as organizational support is present.
- Continuity of Brand
- Aries as a brand needs to live in only one place, at least for the near future.
- Wiki Page: Hyperledger Aries (wiki page)
- Announcement Post: https://www.hyperledger.org/blog/2019/05/14/announcing-hyperledger-aries-infrastructure-supporting-interoperable-identity-solutions
- Promotion of Community
- Continuity of Community
- Notes from this meeting
- Items that are expected by the community from OpenWallet Foundation
- Education
- Webinars
- Blogs
- Meetups
- Marketing committee (Helen)
- long overdue work that could help clarify Aries brand.
- Hyperledger brand refresh under way (late June)
- Two topics
- Aries scope
- What is it
- Set of frameworks that can work with protocols, credential types, crypto, etc. from a wide variety of sources. - John Jordan
- SSI built on top of DIDComm, primarily using HL Indy - Timo (what it is now)
- Has grown past that - Andre
- My own interpretation is that Aries is the protocol which verifiable credentials are issued, held, and presented. Right now the protocol is didcomm/anoncreds/indy based. But those are evolving to be abstracted and support other standards (transport, credential format/type, and ledger agnostic) - Clecio
- foundation / underpinning is indy, anoncreds, and didcomm. Perception outside our group is that Aries IS those things. - Warren
- Wallet vs Agent terms
- What happens if work exceeds that scope?
- What is it
- Potential move to OWF
- Aries scope
- What is the pitch from OWF?
- (every other week is a conflict for the OWF Technical Advisory Council)
- Aries is a few things (mechanically)
- Software
- Protocol Design
- Aries Interop Profile
- Interop Testing
- OCA
- Items that are expected by the community from OpenWallet Foundation
- Notes from last meeting on the topic
- The Opportunity
- A potential re-homing of Aries to OWF
- The Circumstances
- Community needs decisions together
- The Challenges
- Notes on discussion and questions to be clarified
- High ambition level of OWF
- Goal is to create code that has relevance in code that meets regulatory requirements (e.g. as part of the EU Digital Identity Wallet)
- Aries features and approaches can gain better representation in compliance and regulatory settings employing wallets (key leverage point for Aries community)
- Outreach to European Commission already established at OWF
- Funding
- 300 orgs listed in doc
- https://openwallet.foundation/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2023/02/OpenWallet-Foundation-Overview.pdf
- 41 listed current sponsors
- 7 million draft budget?
- Funding state? Will fundraising match needs?
- Difficulty of orgs being members of All The Things.
- Time
- Money
- Project Support from Hyperledger
- Hyperledger social reach is larger
- Training workshop organized by HyperLedger
- Code and Standards being co-located in the same org is difficult
- Aries implementing standards designed outside of Aries
- mDL
- OpenID4VerifiableCredentials
- Beyond Aries?
- OWF explicitly does not want to create standards, OWF core is creating code to implement standards
- Perception of the scope of Aries? What Aries does/is:
- RfCs
- Code matching RfCs
- Interop Profiles
- ToDo: More clearly communicate what Aries does, also towards OWF
- High ambition level of OWF
- The Opportunity
Other Business
Future Topics
- Niels Klomp offered a deeper dive into the openid4vc related flows
- Thomas - Nessus DIDComm 0.23.2 First Release
- Wallet abstraction for AcaPy + Nessus native
- Camel Http Endpoint for Nessus agent
- Support for RFC0434 Out-of-Band Invitation V1 & V2
- Support for RFC0023 Did Exchange V1
- Support for RFC0048 Trust Ping V1 & V2
- Support for RFC0095 Basic Message V1 & V2
- CLI to work with supported protocols and model
- State-of-union of Aries projects
- decorator for redirection after proofs. - existing?
Action items
Call Recording