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Proposed/Draft Resolution 7:
Option 1: Ask the marketing committee to pre-approve a list of names that are catchy and not descriptive.
Option 2: Two phases for naming, the proposal comes with a temporary "code name" (e.g. a geographical location) that can be used for the repository with low risk of trademark violation. On approval, the marketing committee works with the proposers to create a long term name and does all checks. The repository name can be edited.
Baohua Yang
Agree with [Option 2]. The author can negotiate with the marketing team with a valid name, and then get approval by TSC.

Arnaud J Le Hors
I don't think [Option 1] is practical. At least in some cases projects first start as a lab. We clearly don't want to ask the marketing committee to name every lab being created. And even if we did, I expect they would quickly answer: no, thanks!

Arnaud J Le Hors
Even though [Option 2] involves a bit of a pain I think that's the most practical option.

Hart Montgomery
I'm more of a fan of giving the marketing committee "veto power," which I think is what this effectively amounts to.

Ry Jones
We do this internally at LF. FD.IO was Project Rotterdam, IIRC.

Vipin Bharathan
There has been no major problems with names yet. There has to be a back and forth with the Marketing Community, the sponsors and others before the project is brought into the picture. Just the way it is happening now. Even sub-optimal names got through the process. This should be a collaborative effort, not just left to Marcomm.

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The author can negotiate with the marketing team with a valid name, and then get approval by TSC.","type":"text"}]},{"type":"paragraph","content":[{"type":"hardBreak"},{"text":" ","type":"text","marks":[{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/~lehors"}}]},{"text":" ","type":"text","marks":[{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/~lehors"}}]},{"text":" ","type":"text","marks":[{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/~lehors"}}]},{"text":" ","type":"text","marks":[{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/~lehors"}}]},{"type":"inlineExtension","attrs":{"extensionType":"com.atlassian.confluence.migration","extensionKey":"inline-external-image","parameters":{"src":"https://wiki.hyperledger.org/images/icons/profilepics/default.svg","width":"","height":""}}},{"text":" ","type":"text","marks":[{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/~lehors"}}]},{"text":" ","type":"text","marks":[{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/~lehors"}}]},{"text":" ","type":"text","marks":[{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/~lehors"}}]},{"text":" ","type":"text","marks":[{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/~lehors"}}]},{"text":" ","type":"text"},{"text":"Arnaud J Le Hors","type":"text","marks":[{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/~lehors"}}]}]},{"type":"paragraph","content":[{"text":"I don't think [Option 1] is practical. At least in some cases projects first start as a lab. We clearly don't want to ask the marketing committee to name every lab being created. And even if we did, I expect they would quickly answer: no, thanks! 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FD.IO was Project Rotterdam, IIRC.","type":"text"}]},{"type":"paragraph","content":[{"type":"hardBreak"},{"text":" ","type":"text","marks":[{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/~VipinB"}}]},{"text":" ","type":"text","marks":[{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/~VipinB"}}]},{"text":" ","type":"text","marks":[{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/~VipinB"}}]},{"text":" ","type":"text","marks":[{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/~VipinB"}}]},{"type":"inlineExtension","attrs":{"extensionType":"com.atlassian.confluence.migration","extensionKey":"inline-external-image","parameters":{"src":"https://wiki.hyperledger.org/download/attachments/2392860/user-avatar","width":"","height":""}}},{"text":" ","type":"text","marks":[{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/~VipinB"}}]},{"text":" ","type":"text","marks":[{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/~VipinB"}}]},{"text":" ","type":"text","marks":[{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/~VipinB"}}]},{"text":" ","type":"text","marks":[{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/~VipinB"}}]},{"text":" ","type":"text"},{"text":"Vipin Bharathan","type":"text","marks":[{"type":"link","attrs":{"href":"https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/~VipinB"}}]}]},{"type":"paragraph","content":[{"text":"There has been no major problems with names yet. There has to be a back and forth with the Marketing Community, the sponsors and others before the project is brought into the picture. Just the way it is happening now. Even sub-optimal names got through the process. 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