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Date: Thursday, October 19, 2023
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Meeting link: https://zoom.us/my/hyperledger.community.backup?pwd=dkJKdHRlc3dNZEdKR1JYdW40R2pDUT09
Zoom Meeting ID: 622 333 6701 Passcode: 475869
Meeting Recording on YouTube
Upcoming events
- Nov. 2 - eBook launch
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Presentation
Haris Kamal of Chronicled: Financial transactions in life sciences: How blockchain revolutionizes the chargebacks and claims ecosystem
Chronicled started by looking for
- Haris joined MediLedger because he saw the business case, he saw they were using blockchain in a way that made sense
- In the US, more than $1 trillion annually spent on healthcare administration
- There is a misalignment of data in supply chains
- Data has to align for transactions to take place.
- Data misalignment creates errors
- Chargebacks managed by EDI (electronic data interchange)
- Used since 1970s
- Not real time
- Can take days-weeks for manual reconciliation
- MediLedger moves this to real time
- MediLedger uses automation, standardized data, for a shared 'source of truth' - for pricing, drugs, etc.
- Developed through collaboration
- Built by-the-industry, for-the-industry
- Wholesalers: McKessen, Cardinal Health, Amerisource Bergen - collectively control 90% of supply
- Group purchasing organization, which facilitates lower prices for healthcare purchases
- Manufacturers: Pfizer, Genentech, Zydus, Lily, Horizon, Gilead, Bayer, Novartis, Merck, AstraZenica, Amgen, others
- Integrations: SAP, Model N, Restful APIs
- Supported Data Sources: Premier, Vizient, Intalere
- Industry participants raised the issue of chargebacks as being one of their biggest challenge (pain-point)
- Effort for growing the network is focused on manufacturers
- Chargebacks- similar to consumer rebates that required mailing in a receipt and coupon
- $90B in annual chargeback transactions
- Involved Wholesalers, Group Buying Organizations (GPOs) & Buying Groups, Manufacturers
- 4% processing errors, due to manual processing
- >10 days processing time
- $4-10B in annual revenue leakage
- $90B in annual chargeback transactions
- Expectations:
- Eliminate manual effort to manage data - estimated $500M cost annually
- Eliminate disputes - est. 4% chargeback claims, 100k disputes daily
- Reduce revenue loss - $10B annual revenue leakage
- No more aged write-offs
- No more threshold write-offs
- No more unapproved distributor deductions
- No more ineligible customers for 340b programs
- Blockchain
- Permission-based
- Uses Substrate, they expect info to be exchanged across different blockchains
- Looking for:
- security,
- rule-enforcement - no need for a person to validate claims,
- trust - data and business rules can't be changed unilaterally by anyone
- Current state:
- Manufacturers use a roster of who can buy off which contract, at which price
- GPO is source of truth of who is on membership list
- Everyone has identifier numbers, must be reviewed (price-of-trade determination)
- All info exchanges via EDI and emails
- Pricing changes, membership changes, other data changes - cause disputes
- Chargebacks also submitted by EDI message
- If all data matches
- Mediledger modules:
- Roster Management
- Contract communication
- Moves info transfer from EDI to peer-to-peer info
- Info immediately made available to wholesaler
- Claim adjudication
- Network nodes exist for HIN, DEA, 340B orgs (different types of organizations)
- Network does data validation
- Issues approval if data is correct.
- Does not allow submission if data is missing or incorrect, sends message to customers/party entering data
- Network does data validation
- Contract info communication is done through peer-to-peer network
- MediLedger supports Contracting and Finance teams coming together
- Alignment w/trading partners
- Share accurate info in real-time
- Anchored around distributors
- Verify eligibility w/external data points
- Map identities between trading partners
- Share accurate info in real-time
- Automate transactions
- Automatically executes inter-company busines rules
- Ensures reception of valid data
- Automate resubmissions
- Increase profitability
- Reduce float
- Increase rate of return
- Customers save $150M on average after deploying Mediledger
- Alignment w/trading partners
- "Right application of blockchain to the right business case"
- Working group still meets quarterly
- Took years to create a unified protocol
- Network operates on a SAAS model
- Participants pay an annual fee
- Chronicled recognizes that multiple other industries have challenges/pain-points around chargebacks and this platform could be adapted
- The industry they are considering moving into next is semiconductors.
Attendees
Tomaz Sedej
Haris Kama
Juli Cooper
Edwin O
Alan Stoll
Morgan Reece